The lamas = Buddhist precepts breaker

© Forum Club O, Oct 12, 2006 5:18 pm

(TK: The real monks should neither eat animal nor have a woman.)

(TK: The real monks should not drink alcohol.)

(TK: The real monks should not make a sacrifice with schnapps.)

(TK: The real monks should not kill animal.)

(TK: The real monk should not eat animal.)

(TK: The orthodox Buddhism has no such thing.)

(TK: But there are vegetable and fruit in Tibet. Why wild yak?)

(TK: Beef is the favorite thing for lamas which provides them energy to practice tantric with women.)

(TK: The real monks should not do this. In other words, a monk who does this is not orthodox Buddhist.)


  1. The Tibetan Tantric dharma is wrong from its basic doctrines and is definitely not the Buddha dharma at all.
    Those poor lamas do not know any better, yet they regard themselves as holy monks while relishing alcohol and meat; afterwards they preside over empowerments by spitting on or copulating with their adherents.
    It is very difficult to expect them to change or correct their misconception because that would totally overturn their basic doctrines.
    Poor people! They possess their Buddha nature as well...

  2. It is important to understand to understand the underlying reason before pointing fingers of accusations. Buddha never said Buddhists are not allowed to eat meat, in all his compassion he knew that had he said such a thing, when Buddhism spread in regions of harsh climatic conditions like Tibet, where the earth isn't fertile and crops don't grow. It would mean so much hardship for the practitioners as it would mean getting vegetable all the way from far away places like India. While for a practitioner who has not attained the siddhis, indulging in meat and alcohol consumption will not farewell. Have you not heard of Mahasiddhas of India like Tilopa (who was a pimp and fisherman, liberating beings in his own unconventional way). The crazy wisdom yogi of tibet Drukpa Kunleg ( who is known for womanising, alcohol and also being a hunter). Buddha said " A man can never understand another man".
    With regard to the skull cup or kapala, it is a part of tantric Buddhist tradition. It was used by the Mahasiddhas of India. Hinduism in ancient India caused so many social divisions based on caste system, and also regarded dead bodies and meat impure and untouchable. In all their wisdom the Mahasiddhas once again started to eat from skull cups just to make a point - "there is no such thing as impure or untouchable"
    I hope and pray that you see the wisdom in all this. May it benefit all beings.

  3. First, it is rich in sorts of vegetable in Titet. Please see the new post “Is Tibet lack of vegetable?”

    Second, Buddha forbids his followers, especially monks to eat meat. You have to read Middle Length Agama Sutra (中阿含經) or The great nirvana sutra (大般涅槃經). As to the sutras of Tibetan Buddhism, a lot of them are fake.

    Third, are you a Buddhist? If yes, you should follow the doctrine of Buddha Shakyamuni: Do not eat meat. The beef, drumstick, mutton, fish… which you eat were once your father, mother, sisters and brothers. A real Buddhist should be kind, aren’t you? Please remember it: Meat Sin, Vegetarian Merit.

  4. Accord with T.K.'s statement.
    Buddha did mention many times in the sutras, not to eat meat. Among many sutras, one is quoted as follows:

    《梵網經》卷2:「若佛子。故食肉一切肉不得食。斷大慈悲性種子。一切眾生見而捨去。是故一切菩薩不得食一切眾生肉。食肉得無量罪。若故食者。犯輕垢罪。」(CBETA, T24, no. 1484, p. 1005, b10-13)

    Brahmajāla-sūtra (Tib. Tsangs pa'i dra ba'i mdo)clearly stated that "meat eating will get countless retributions." This statement specifically refers to the Buddhist monks, unless the meat-eating persons do not consider themselves to be Buddhist monks.

    We can use our common sense to judge any practitioner's state of cultivation through observing their routine conduct. Don't you think so?

  5. It is a beneficial quote. I translate it rouphly:

    "If a Buddhist eats meat on purpose who should not eat meat, loses his seeds of kindness. Everyone who sees him, turns his back to him and goes away from him. Thus every Boddhisattva should not eat meat. The meat-eating gets countless sin. If a Buddhist eats meat on purpose, he gets light sin."
    --The Sutra of Brahma Net, Vol 2.
    (CBETA, T24, no. 1484, p. 1005, b10-13)

  6. Jivaka, I say there are three occasions in which meat should not be eaten; when it is seen, heard or suspected that the living being has been killed for sake of a bhikkhu. I say: Meat should not be eaten on these three occasions.
    I say that there are three occasions in which meat may be eaten: when it is not seen, not heard, and not suspected, that the living being has been killed for sake of the bhikkhu, I say: Meat may be eaten on these three occasions